Kodak with lead seal question.

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Kodak with lead seal question.

Message non lu par Stephen G » mar. 30 déc. 2008 11:13

Hello
I have a Kodak junior 620 with lead seal on the handle.
The history of the cameras life:
Was in Den Haag 1937 and then lived in Germany until just before WW2 started.
From there it went to New Zealand.
Can anyone offer any information on why the seal is there?
Regards, Stephen.
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Re: Kodak with lead seal question.

Message non lu par Eric Carlhan » mar. 30 déc. 2008 11:45

Generally, these seal are set on cameras by customs to justify the origin of the camera. With our littles countries, it is current to cross frontiers. :D
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Re: Kodak with lead seal question.

Message non lu par Stephen G » mar. 30 déc. 2008 14:04

Thanks Eric. I guess its common to find a camera in Europe with one attached still. Just never seen one here before.

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Re: Kodak with lead seal question.

Message non lu par Daniel C » mar. 30 déc. 2008 15:14

Hi Stephen,
I have been looking at many cameras in Europe and to be honest with you, It is the first time I see this kind of seal.
May be because owners removed them from the camera as soon as they could.

Could you explain what is stamped onto the lead. It is not obvious looking at the pictures

kind regards

Daniel
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Re: Kodak with lead seal question.

Message non lu par Stephan VDZ » mar. 30 déc. 2008 16:47

typical custom seal... was used in Belgium until the early 70'... you needed to have the seal so that the item was known as "belgian" when you came back fom holiday in France for instance... otherwise you had to pay duties...
Frequent on cameras, binoculars... but not on lenses ...
Since my family lived very near the border, and with part both sides of the border, I remember that pre-xmas phone discussion about chocolates, tobaccoes (cheaper in Belgium), wines and liquor (from France) and photogears (cheaper in Belgium, specially the german one, so I learned to spell voigtländer very early)....

The usual belgian seal has a lion on one face ....

Stephan

Vo-i-gt-lan-der ... with a french accent...
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Re: Kodak with lead seal question.

Message non lu par Stephen G » mar. 30 déc. 2008 17:42

It is old and worn so the detail is not really there anymore.
Maybe it's origins will be recognized by someone.
I wonder if it adds to the cameras collect-ability? :gratgrat:
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Re: Kodak with lead seal question.

Message non lu par Pierre-Yves P » mar. 30 déc. 2008 21:21

:Hello: Hi!

I'm not really sure this seal will add to the value of the camera. They were indeed quite common, although it's weird that the seal is still attached to the camera :gratgrat:.
If it doesn't add to the financial value of the camera, it sure adds some mystery to this camera's history :D !
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Re: Kodak with lead seal question.

Message non lu par Manuel CB » lun. 12 sept. 2016 00:04

Very interesting cus I had a camera with same labels. Thanks

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Re: Kodak with lead seal question.

Message non lu par paul duflot » mar. 13 sept. 2016 19:14

Hello!
Beeing a 71-yo Belgian reader of this forum, I won't resist to put my piece of salt into the cake!
As a child, I saw many of these so-called "Belgian seals" attached to various objects.
My father had one sealed around the steering column of his Renault 4cv when we made our first trip to France (Normandy and Brittany to be accurate)
in the year 1954 if I remember well. Those steals were absolutely not similar to the one presented here. They showed a very clearly contoured figure of a lion.

A few years later (let's say 1962) when I got my first decent camera, I got it declared to a friendly (!) customs officer, but no lead seal anymore.
It was replaced by a very official looking peace of paper.

Not sure this will help, but I hope it will be fun to some of you.

Paul

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Re: Kodak with lead seal question.

Message non lu par Jacques Bratieres » mer. 14 sept. 2016 07:50

Belgian custom seals appear in this thread : http://www.collection-appareils.fr/phpB ... 66#p161720" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Paper seals, not lead ones !
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