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[Richard Jules] Verascope f40 serial number info
- Stephen G
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[Richard Jules] Verascope f40 serial number info
Bonjour all
Can you tell the manufacturer date from an f40's serial? I have read that you can but I got a bit lost in the translation.
Cheers, Stephen.
Can you tell the manufacturer date from an f40's serial? I have read that you can but I got a bit lost in the translation.
Cheers, Stephen.
- Arnaud SAUDAX
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Re: Verascope f40 serial number info
Yes, we can !
But we need to know the number inside...
But we need to know the number inside...
Iconomécanophile chauvin...
- Stephen G
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Re: Verascope f40 serial number info
Hi Arnaud
Hope you have been keeping well?
I picked up two f40's in a haul of cine gear and lenses last friday.
1st f40
3650111 and has "Made in France" on the top near the logo and focusing. Only 1 flash port on the camera.
Lenses are 1077638 and 1077586
2nd f40
1873108 No Made in France stamp and 3 flash ports on one side.
Lenses 888400 and 822982
Regards, Stephen
Hope you have been keeping well?
I picked up two f40's in a haul of cine gear and lenses last friday.
1st f40
3650111 and has "Made in France" on the top near the logo and focusing. Only 1 flash port on the camera.
Lenses are 1077638 and 1077586
2nd f40
1873108 No Made in France stamp and 3 flash ports on one side.
Lenses 888400 and 822982
Regards, Stephen
- Bernard Muraccioli
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Re: Verascope f40 serial number info
for the fisrt one : 1952/1953
the second : 1947 / 1950
Source : Les Chiffres clefs (Benchmarks) Foto Saga Patrice-Hervé Pont
Best Regards
Bernard
the second : 1947 / 1950
Source : Les Chiffres clefs (Benchmarks) Foto Saga Patrice-Hervé Pont
Best Regards
Bernard
On a deux vies, et la deuxième commence quand on se rend compte qu’on n’en a qu’une (Confucius)
- Arnaud SAUDAX
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Re: Verascope f40 serial number info
In F 40, the number is the serial number, but 3 last digit...
1873108 => Serial number is 1873
3650111 => Serial number is 3659
The 3 last digit are linked with date. 2 first for month, the last one for year! You have to add 1930, 1940 or 1950 depending of serial number...
1873108 => Serial number is 1873 --- 10 - 8 => October 1948
3650111 => Serial number is 3659 --- 11 - 1 => November 1951
It's looks a little cumbersome, but generally it's coherent... In the book "Jules Richard et la Magie du Relief", Jacques Perrin saids is some English collectors which decypher that... He said also that some "bugs" can appear with le month number...
This number is date of construction... In his first book, J. Perrin give a listing of number and date of sold.
1950 - from 1678 to 2335 sold to BUSCH - USA
1953 - from 3301 to 4044...
Have a good day!
1873108 => Serial number is 1873
3650111 => Serial number is 3659
The 3 last digit are linked with date. 2 first for month, the last one for year! You have to add 1930, 1940 or 1950 depending of serial number...
1873108 => Serial number is 1873 --- 10 - 8 => October 1948
3650111 => Serial number is 3659 --- 11 - 1 => November 1951
It's looks a little cumbersome, but generally it's coherent... In the book "Jules Richard et la Magie du Relief", Jacques Perrin saids is some English collectors which decypher that... He said also that some "bugs" can appear with le month number...
This number is date of construction... In his first book, J. Perrin give a listing of number and date of sold.
1950 - from 1678 to 2335 sold to BUSCH - USA
1953 - from 3301 to 4044...
Have a good day!
Iconomécanophile chauvin...
- Stephen G
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Re: Verascope f40 serial number info
Thanks Bernard and Arnaud! Most helpful and much appreciated.
Cheers, Stephen.
Cheers, Stephen.
- Arnaud SAUDAX
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Re: [Richard Jules] Verascope f40 serial number info
is your Vérascope 40 an BUSH model?
Good if you can put some pictures...
Good if you can put some pictures...
Iconomécanophile chauvin...
- Stephen G
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Re: [Richard Jules] Verascope f40 serial number info
Thanks for the link Arnaud! Both are not the Bush model.
The person I got them off said that the owner was a professional photographer/film maker and did some work for Sawyers Australia. Sawyers is a US firm that is best known for its product called ViewMaster. I done a web search and found a newsletter from Sawyers stating that the Australian office had been working with the studio these came from. There was also an old box full of filters and stuff that was from Sawyers as well. (see pic)
Looks like these F40's were used to make Viewmaster reels. That said , Australian Viewmaster reels are not very common.
I have read that the F40's were made from 1938 to 1955. The link here says differently, 41 to 57. I am guessing my info source is incorrect?
Do you know what part of the camera is platinum? Is it a mixture in the alloy or plating of a parts?
If you want any close up pictures of any part of these cameras let me know.
Cheers, Stephen.
The person I got them off said that the owner was a professional photographer/film maker and did some work for Sawyers Australia. Sawyers is a US firm that is best known for its product called ViewMaster. I done a web search and found a newsletter from Sawyers stating that the Australian office had been working with the studio these came from. There was also an old box full of filters and stuff that was from Sawyers as well. (see pic)
Looks like these F40's were used to make Viewmaster reels. That said , Australian Viewmaster reels are not very common.
I have read that the F40's were made from 1938 to 1955. The link here says differently, 41 to 57. I am guessing my info source is incorrect?
Do you know what part of the camera is platinum? Is it a mixture in the alloy or plating of a parts?
If you want any close up pictures of any part of these cameras let me know.
Cheers, Stephen.
- Arnaud SAUDAX
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Re: [Richard Jules] Verascope f40 serial number info
Very nice items! I think flash ports are not from factory.
In France, we call "platine" the front of camera where is the lens... Nothing to see whith metal "platinium"... On F 40, it's brass with Chromium plating.
The first Vérascope 40 was made in 1938, but with WW2, no one where sold... It's only in 1941 that some where sold, but very few.
In 1956-57, Richard was solding, but not assembling these cameras.
In France, Mr Kovalef was also using a Verascope 40 to make cards for Lestrade, a maker of stereoscopic views and viewers.
In France, we call "platine" the front of camera where is the lens... Nothing to see whith metal "platinium"... On F 40, it's brass with Chromium plating.
The first Vérascope 40 was made in 1938, but with WW2, no one where sold... It's only in 1941 that some where sold, but very few.
In 1956-57, Richard was solding, but not assembling these cameras.
In France, Mr Kovalef was also using a Verascope 40 to make cards for Lestrade, a maker of stereoscopic views and viewers.
Iconomécanophile chauvin...
- Stephen G
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- Enregistré le : ven. 26 déc. 2008 07:00
Re: [Richard Jules] Verascope f40 serial number info
Thank-you / Merci for this information Arnaud!
The flash ports were probably done here in Australia I suspect. The 1951 model looks like it has a port on a port.
Cheers, Stephen.
The flash ports were probably done here in Australia I suspect. The 1951 model looks like it has a port on a port.
Cheers, Stephen.